I recall having a similar problem a year ago, I’m sorry I couldn’t rack down exactly what I did to fix it but it was something to do with my watch, I was logging exercises as “hikes” or “walks” or some other “activity” on my Suunto watch. I went to calling everything a “run” when it’s a training activity and everything works better in training peaks. I think training peaks functionality is best with traditional running and biking and there may be dome data translation mix ups with other forms of activity logging. hope thats helpful.
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ParticipantParticipantlapotka on January 17, 2023 at 7:05 pm · in reply to: If results are stable, is 47 min enough for aerobic threshold test? #74751
my guess is with only a HR drift of 1-2 percent, I think it’s likely your AET is higher than the HR you targeted for this test and you should try again when rested and increase your target HR by like 3-5 bpm and see what the drift looks like.
ParticipantI do all my shorter Z1 or 2 workouts in the morning before work fasted, I don’t have time to eat and let food settle and work out and get the kids to school and get to work on time so this works for me. I try to fuel up for any interval work or sprint or strength workouts and I plan longer workouts (over 90 min or so) for after work or on the weekend and eat something before and fuel during a run or hike over 90 min. just my $2.
ParticipantMy big goal trip for the year is the Wilson Group after a warm up on Handies. Good work
Participantyou might try some leg extensions in the gym with a pigeon toe (toes pointed towards each-other) to emphasize the outer part of the quad (vastus lateralis) if you have outside knee pain or try a duck foot to emphasize the inner quad (vastus medialus). I think steep hiking forces you to do some pronation and articulations the lower leg that puts different stress on the knee and can work the Quads in odd ways, some version of french technique in crampons is how i think about it.
ParticipantI also use the lightest shoe that will get the job done, most of the time its running shoes but on some of the steeper hiking i use a lighter hiking boot. In the last few weeks before big objectives I will work in more of my climbing kit even if that means using some heavy boots just to shake down the gear and get my feet broken in.
Participantlapotka on June 9, 2022 at 1:25 pm · in reply to: Hiking – 20% BW and short vs. 5% BW and long #68143The hrTSS score is calculated solely off your heart rate and duration of the activity, my guess is that your HR is a lot lower on those long hikes. there are other training stimuluses that are important relating to core strength carrying weight and uphill hiking specific muscles and such.
I’ve had some good luck handicapping myself with a pack and going for long hikes with less fit friends, keeping my HR where I want it, hiking at the slower pace and adding weight so it’s difficult enough to get the right HR. I fill water bottles up and hike with my wife or kids a lot and if I’m struggling to keep my HR down while hiking at her pace I just dump some water.
ParticipantI’ve had similar issues with my Suunto Spartan, using lower quality setting to maximize battery life, usually on ridges or near summits , the map looks like i’m teleporting into the void , I attribute it to bouncing from one set of satellites on one side of a ridge to another on the other side but thats just a guess. Happens at the summit of my local ski area too, I’ll magically gain a thousand feet of elevation walking far side of the lift.
Participantas a follow up, I did my workout today as a walk and basically did the same thing, I was goig to jog and walk mix but after ten min just decided to walk fast.
http://tpks.ws/JCPA4YO3PNFEYADARE4FVEJWJE
I’m able to walk faster than I run and at a lower HR
So I’m wondering if I am doing brisk walks rather than running can I increase the volume a bunch since it’s not going to create as much fatigue? I feel like I can do an hour brisk walk almost every day and recover just fine.
Thanks
Participantlapotka on May 21, 2022 at 2:21 pm · in reply to: Acclimatization preparing for High-Altitude Goal #67447knowing what your specific objective is would help, I’ve taken a lot of folks from the midwest up 14ers and I like to go to Leadville and walk the downtown strip a few times and get a meal and then camp down near Salida which can be about 8k i think. Then go for a hike the next day or poke around a higher trailhead or Monarch Pass and just get used to the altitude. Two or three days of that makes a big difference and I think if you have the time and resources planning a week of hanging around Leadville could help you as long as you time the turnaround right for your main objective. the downside would be all that traveling and stress right before your objective and it’s impact on your tapering. The cumulative acclimatization benefit of this whole endeavor would diminish pretty quickly afterwards so spending a week in Leadville and then flying back to sea level for a week and then going to climb Denali or an international objective would probably harm your pre trip mojo more than it would help. I’ve never climbed anything above 14 but i’ve climbed about 1/2 the 14ers in a lot of one or two week vacations coming from lower elevations, so thats my experience with it all.
ParticipantI love my Suunto 9 and it has a lot of battery power in the lower accuracy GPS mode if you’re doing multi day mountain objectives. the proprietary suunto ap is a turn off for some people but it syncs with training peaks just fine. no music on the 9 but the other models support spotify. I know it sounds dorky but I’m considering getting an apple watch so I have a phone and music on my runs and using the suunto for fitness tracking because I don’t think one watch can do all the things without seriously sacrificing batter time and i’m tired of my brick of an Iphone bouncing about in my pockets.
ParticipantI’m having some difficulty with my heart rate monitor while doing the test, I have a Suunto watch with the optical HR but paired it with a chest strap. the fist time i tried it started off well and 1/2 way through it said my HR was 225 for like 20 min. I changed batteries, washed strap, and switched to a different shirt and got better data but it still has random jumps , I’m just jogging along at 125 bpm and suddenly the watch says i’m at 155 or even 181 for a min and then corrects. I don’t expect the device to do much better but I’m wondering how its impacting the calculations of my test, attached is a link to my best test (i’ve done 3 in the last 6 days). anyone have a recommendation for a better chest strap or ways to improve the data? the wrist monitor has always worked pretty good for me while running but sucks when I use ski poles or handle bars or do anything with my hands, the overall accuracy seems to be more stable at higher heart rates but more prone to bouncing around on long easy walks or when the hr is lower. thanks for any thoughts.
ParticipantI think of TSS as my work out points i earn, training peaks will collect them and give you a “fitness” score over time and assuming you consistently earn more TSS points your fitness improves, fitness is kind of your weighted average TSS over time. The “form” score shows how you should be feeing for todays workout comparing you overall fitness to your more recent workouts. I think keeping your form in the -10 to 0 range is a good indicator you are putting in the work but not going too hard, a positive form score means its time to get after it and you are becoming well rested. a -20 would tell you to take another rest day. This is all assuming you have a documented history in training peaks, if you are brand new to it your data may be a bit off to start with until theirs enough data for the algorithm to use.
rTSS is a specialized “running training stress score” and assumes you are a fit runner training for running marathons or 10ks or whatever, it incorporates data such as your pace. Theres something similar for cycling or rowing that assumes wattage power. I think if all you do is run the rTSS would be good and if you are doing the Lance Armstrong thing you want to just focus on your watt output on a bike. For mountaineering and TFTNA I think we should focus on the hrTSS or “heart rate training stress score” which will standardize the physiological stress and time spent in different heart rates regardless of modality (walk, hike, treadmill, running, jogging, whatever). I have to manually swap rTSS to hrTSS on each of my workouts right now, someone tried to help me change the default and it still wont work.
Participantlapotka on May 14, 2022 at 1:31 pm · in reply to: May 2022 Introductions / Goals / Geographies #67167I’m James, from north of Missoula Montana.
I’ve been an Uphill Athlete fanboy since the fist book came out but have never done any structured training. I’m a 41 year old overweight dad with a stress full job, I climb a few 14ers every year and some other regional class 2,3 or 4 mountains each season (Borah, Hood, random less known local stuff that similar) and I inbound splitboard a few laps every weekend while my kids do ski lessons. I “trained” for a 1/2 marathon this January to make myself run enough that I can hopefully eventually jog with a low enough heart rate to apply TFTNA principles while doing an hour trail run a few times a week. I’d like to climb 4-5 14ers in a long week in August and not be miserable and just generally get some of the heart rate training dialed in better.Good to meet you all!
Participantlapotka on February 27, 2018 at 11:28 am · in reply to: new heart rate threshold notifications in training peaks #8288163 seemed way to high to be my aerobic threshold, thanks for the clarification. Does this in anyway correlate to an increase in my aerobic threshold? do the two necessarily move upward together? I have been training my aerobic base workouts in the 130- 140 range but noticed recently i could maintain a full hour of cross country skiing with my mouth frozen shut at 150. I guess I’m just a bit confused about what progress in my aerobic threshold will look like… will my nose breathing pace be able to go at a higher HR?