Here you can find the theoretical basis for the Garmin calculation:
Firstbeat EPOC Whitepaper
There you can see, that the EPOC is a function of % of HRmax.
I don’t pay attention to the numbers in Garmin since I always get a 2.2.
Here you can find the theoretical basis for the Garmin calculation:
Firstbeat EPOC Whitepaper
There you can see, that the EPOC is a function of % of HRmax.
I don’t pay attention to the numbers in Garmin since I always get a 2.2.
May I ask for your HR_max and AeT? Bc Garmin is using the spread between HR_max and your training HR.
Could you post a picture of the result?
What I did, I just left my skins on the ski while riding down my little hill (35m). I used older, more stable ski and boots for that. So I was able to gather a lot of repetitions.
And by active recovery you mean what, Scott? 😉 jumping jacks, jump rope, dancing?
@mzkarim, yes the Gym ME plan.
Thx for your answer, Scott!
The Gym ME does not mention any active recovery. What do you mean by that?
Hi guys,
Thx for your awesome answers.
I think it is not on the nutrition side since I didn’t change my diet. The same happened 8n ski mountaineering season when I switched from Z2 to Z1.
I started to add
– Z4 occasionally (30s/30s; every two weeks, 3 weeks ago)
– pickups during long Z1 hikes
– Gym ME (week 5)
– Static core training (since February)
– seldomly a little fartlek in Z1 workouts (Z3/Z4 max. 5minutes; when someone is feeling superior bc he thinks he is faster than me, and I want to put him into his place 😉
@rich
1. I just have a scale at my parent’s house so every two weeks, I guess. Last time was 88ish. But I see your point there. I’m considering to buy a scale
2. As described above, I added ME, static core training (had disc surgery in Jan, can’t do any dynamic excercises) and I started to fuel on long Z1 workouts (5+ hours)
3. There is a chance that I overcompensate after longer workouts and after the back-to-back weekends. It wasn’t a problem so far, but I thougt with this training volume I can eat whatever I want.
Best regards
Dada
Hi Rachel,
I have the same problem. In allergy season top of Z1 fells so damn hard but the HR is very low. I found out that has almost nothing to do with our lungs. Our body feels sick. I found a workaround, but check with a doctor first:
Besides my normal asthma drugs, I take 5mg of Prednisolone on longer alpine training days. That’s a totally different world and gets me closer to winter season.
If you find another relief, let me know, since the Cortisone makes me vulnerable to infections.
You gotta separate different kinds of training to answer the question.
For Z1/2 base training it’s no problem to reduce the ME stimulus by using poles.
You will do ME training separately so you will easily compensate for the reduced ME stimulus while doing base.
But happy to have a confirmation from the coaches here
There is an ongoing discussion atm: Irregularity in HR after workouts
I thought the same but it sounds, I’m not right there.
Dada
Hi,
I think it’s the other way around, so what you observe is correct. Hard training is yielding higher resting HR and lower HR for the same effort.
I think the reason for the higher resting HR is that you left homeostasis. The lower HR at effort is probably due to fatigue and your heart is not able to keep up bc it’s still tired due to stress from the day before.
Dada
You avoid pounding your muscles.
Take a look at Stephan Seiler’s presentation: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/310725768_Seiler%27s_Hierarchy_of_Endurance_Training_Needs
There is a sample calculation of running vs. Rowing. This also holds for cycling.
Cycling is still very good, but you need high volumes. A little anecdote from yesterday: I was cycling the first time this year and before just training hiking and running. I could stay below AeT the majority of the time but I was still tired after the 2.5h. More tired than after 1h running at AeT. I think it’s from the fast and continous motion.
Dada
Awesome!
To sum up my knowledge I have gathered from this forum so far:
– cycling is good but not as intense as footborne activities -> so 1 hour of Z1/2 corresponds to 3h of cycling in the same zone
– your AeT for cycling will probably be lower since you only use a smaller percentage of your body muscles -> e.g. my AeT for running (165) and cycling (150-155)
– cycling out of the saddle is superior to sitting when you train for running
Have fun and get well soon.
Dada
Bottomline:
– your test is useless for AnT
– you trained too hard which is why you don’t see an improvement in AeT
What I would do:
– do what Rachel said
– train below 130 bpm
Good luck!
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