Second Set of Eyes on Some Results

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  • #41366
    ChaseD92
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    I know all of this has been beaten into the ground on these forums, but I wouldn’t mind a second set of eyes on the results from a recent gas exchange test.

    I have been following the Denali training plan for about a month. My heart rate drift test at the beginning gave me an aerobic threshold value of 130 bpm, which I was skeptical of at the time. I have had a difficult time maintaining AeT and below for my workouts (I’m working on being more patient), and have trained more in the 140 – 160 bpm range. I have had hour long workouts that don’t make me feel totally gassed where I maintained 160+ bpm throughout, and recently had a 3 hour 4000′ elevation gain hike where I average 154 bpm (was definitely tired, but not unreasonably so). Training Peaks has recommended an AnT of 166 for me based on 5 weeks of consistent running and training.

    For the recent gas exchange treadmill test: They had me warm up at about 2mph for 5 min prior to the test beginning. The speed and incline was then gradually increased (about 0.5% grade and 0.5 to 1 mph every min) to a max of 9.5 mph and 3% grade. Total test time was around 11 or 12 minutes. Here are the results:

    AeT: 130 bpm (seems to confirm my drift test from a month ago)
    AnT: 137 bpm – This is where I am confused. This seems very low, especially when compared to my max heart rate (192 bpm) and my AeT. Could this be correct? If so, I see that I don’t have ADS by the traditional definition, but am a little confused about where to train from here on out. 130 and below? Or 137 and above?

    The zones they recommend are “Low: 84 – 130”, “Moderate: 130 – 137”, “High: 137 – 178”, “Peak: 178 – 192.” I recognize that these are generic zones that are just printed on a report, but they still seem odd. VO2 max was put at 40.2.

    Thank you in advance for whoever else gets their eyes on these results!

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    Rachel on #41375

    You should do an AnT field test, that seems to be the gold standard for figuring out AnT. It’s a bit painful but not too long.

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    Dada on #41380

    Bottomline:
    – your test is useless for AnT
    – you trained too hard which is why you don’t see an improvement in AeT

    What I would do:
    – do what Rachel said
    – train below 130 bpm

    Good luck!

    Participant
    ChaseD92 on #41384

    Awesome! Thank you both for the input. Sounds like I know what needs to be done!

    Spectator
    Scott Johnston on #41461

    Chase:

    I’ll chime in here but just want to confirm that Rachel and Dada have said; your history indicates that you are aerobically deficient (you’re metabolically more economical at 155 than 130). I never relay on gas exchange tests for AnT. The simple field test we offer will give you a better grasp since it is a performance test not a performance proxy test like the gas test.

    Good luck,
    Scott

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    ChaseD92 on #41483

    Fantastic. Thank you for the confirmation Scott. I’ll double down on my diligence when it comes to keeping the heart rate low during training. Thanks for everything!

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