From what I understand, it’s +10 TSS per 1000ft for both uphill and downhill since there’s still training load from the eccentric downhill movement. Since there’s no equiv downhill on a machine, it’s just the uphill (concentric), and I think you only use +5 TSS.
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Moderatorkrish on February 18, 2023 at 9:22 am · in reply to: Adjusting hrTSS for hilly hikes done indoors #75749Moderatorkrish on February 18, 2023 at 9:22 am · in reply to: Adjusting hrTSS for hilly hikes done indoors #75748
From what I understand, it’s +10 TSS per 1000ft for both uphill and downhill since there’s still training load from the eccentric downhill movement. Since there’s no equiv downhill on a machine, it’s just the uphill (concentric), and I think you only use +5 TSS.
ModeratorIt depends on what you’re trying to optimize for. There’s definitely lots of ways to chase CTL and get high numbers. But, if your goals are high mountains, then the CTL number might not be representative of what you’re actually ready for. If your goals are more general fitness, then it might be useful.
Other than deleting the entry, there’s no way for TP to ignore the activity but being consistent for what you’re training for is the key. CTL is useful for yourself when comparing your OWN performance relative to previous activities. It’s not a number that you can use to compare against other people. So, if you do record everything you do and then perform a goal activity, take note of how you did and how you recovered. Keep recording everything the same way and use the CTL number to give yourself a relative comparison for the next time.
Moderatorkrish on November 24, 2022 at 10:09 pm · in reply to: How to get 2,000 ft vert within timeframe of workout (vertically challenged) #72923You could always go back down partway and then back up again to total 2000ft. I’m not a coach, but I imagine staying in Z2 the entire uphill time and maintaining a duration volume that is within your recovery ability should be the focus. As mentioned earlier, you will eventually get faster within Z2 and will be able to do the hill twice to get the vert + 2hr time.
ModeratorIt’s definitely correct to have the double workout days on the intermediate and advanced plans. As to the sequence of doing them, I’ve been just doing them back to back mostly due to scheduling around work. But, I’d love to hear from the coaches on the intended effect.
ModeratorThere’s a button you can click on the group’s page: https://uphillathlete.com/mountaineering-training-group-members-only/
ModeratorI believe you need to access the videos through the Vimeo apps locally on your device in order to safe them offline. They’re then accessible within the app itself while offline.
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Moderatorkrish on July 19, 2022 at 2:03 pm · in reply to: Hill and Simulated Hill Methods – Order of Priority #69308For ME, I’ve been doing 30% incline (will work up to more) with 55lbs. I recall asking a while back and hearing that it was a good alternative since I don’t have easy access to equiv natural terrain. But, I, too, would love to know the order of preference amongst the other options you listed.
ModeratorSorry, no. I’m in northern California, US.
ModeratorThis article talks about this well: https://uphillathlete.com/trainingpeaks-metrics-ctl-tss/
Basically, there’s some fudge factors you can apply (ie, additional TSS) to account for elevation gain and % BW to account for the mountain specific differences.
EDIT: I re-read your post and think I answered the wrong question. If so, sorry. 🙂
ModeratorFWIW, I love my Garmin Fenix 7. It comes in several sizes and the battery lasts a LONG time. No issues syncing with TP either.
Moderatorkrish on May 11, 2022 at 10:54 pm · in reply to: May 2022 Introductions / Goals / Geographies #67050Thanks for creating this thread! I’m Krish, and this is my 3rd time in the UA big mountain training group. The last 2 have been absolutely life changing for me re: my goals and ambitions. So, I’m honored to be able to continue.
I’ve spent the past 16yrs starting our family and decided to get back into the mountains a year ago….shooting for Rainier this July, with hopefully much more to come.
This program, group and set of coaches are simply outstanding. The biweekly Zoom calls are therapy for me (a welcome break from work!), and it’s been great to finally get a meaningful set of workout programs.
Nice to meet everyone!
ModeratorYes, extremely helpful. Thank you Nate! Sometimes these values add unnecessary mental stress, so it’s nice to know which ones to really care about and which to just view as guides. Have a great weekend!!
ModeratorThanks, that’s super helpful.
Final ques/statement….this ends up making the Planned TSS much smaller (at times) than the Completed TSS. Is that expected given that TP doesn’t account for elevation and BW? How should we generally view the Planned TSS values? (I assume they’re heavily reliant on the AnT value.) Thanks again!