Sounds like youre on the right track. For a WB trip I would probably avoid any of the single wall options (although they’re tempting with weight :)) the condensation and lack of robustness in the wind just isn’t worth the weight savings for that kind of trip in my opinion. The Hilleberg is definitely the most spacious for the weight and the GT versions are amazing to cook in with the size and shape of the vestibule, have used those up there for several trips and all in all I am a pretty big fan. The downside is they don’t do as well in the wind especially when it’s shifting and hitting the tent from the side so good walls and camp building skills are key higher on the mountain if it’s super nasty out. Basically, all the other options are slight variations on the same thing and you’d be fine with any of them, ve 25, MHW trango, Marmot Thor etc. I think the MHW feels slightly roomier with the angle of the side walls being slightly steeper and the ventilation is a bit better with the clip system instead of sleeves but these are mostly nuances and definitely won’t make or break a trip.
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Steve, Depending on the number in your party I would consider the MHW trango tents or the Hilleberg Keron or Keron GT. For a west buttress climb, if I am not bringing a separate kitchen tent, I typically bring a tent that is rated one bigger than the number in the party unless you want to be super cozy. Happy to discuss further.
ModeratorMarkPostle on May 21, 2022 at 7:27 pm · in reply to: Acclimatization preparing for High-Altitude Goal #67450The two best things you can do for high altitude trips will always be to train in a way that fully develops your aerobic capacity (I.e. Consistent, high volume, low intensity) and pace the goal trip in a way that you acclimate sufficiently as the trip progresses. Of course training in a sport specific way (doing lots of vert if your goal has lots of vert) will always be of great benefit but that’s a separate discussion and will not additionally assist in being ready for the altitude component. I have generally seen “pre acclimatization” trips do more harm than good for the reasons mentioned above, loss of fitness due to missed/reduced training, increased physical/mental stress, greater chance of illness with extra travel, complete ineffectiveness due to rapid loss of acclimatization when you travel between the place and the goal climb. Your best bet is to show up healthy, fit, rested and pace your ascent smartly.
ModeratorStephanie,
1) You want to make sure you’re training with the target weight for your goal climb by the last weeks of the program before you leave but you can progress through the range up to that point.
2) Individual ability varies quite a bit for the gym based ME, If you’re finding it fairly easy (I like to use recovery as much as HR as a gauge) then you can definitely progress it faster than the plan. That includes adding 10% or more BW. If you skip ahead to July 12th I think there are progressions 3,4 and 5. You may well be able to go directly to 5 if you have a fair bit of training history with this type of work.
ModeratorMarkPostle on May 20, 2022 at 8:40 pm · in reply to: Periodization and Cycling Multiple ME Phases #67438Keith, this is a good question and one that we deal with fairly often when an athlete has multiple events that maybe aren’t super far apart and timeframe but both of the nature where muscular endurance training is useful. I tend to think of this in two different ways loosely:
1) The events are close together (4-6 weeks apart) in this case I tend to run a longish session of muscular endurance training prior to the first event and then only do more sports-specific training between the events. As muscular endurance training tends to have a fairly long reaching timeframe and it’s benefits after stopping the training the athlete will typically still do well in the second event even though it’s several weeks after the first one.
2) the events are farther apart (6-12 weeks) here if the athlete recovers well from muscular endurance type training you may have time to implement a separate session between the events. In this case I might prescribe something like two separate six-week blocks of ME with an appropriate taper for each event. This can work well if you’re smart about it and especially if event #1 isn’t something that has a huge drain and recovery time.
This type of training is quite variable from one athlete to the next. Age, physiology and training history make a lot of difference in application for sure.
ModeratorKeith, I took a look at that work out quickly and it was indeed originally an rTSS of 8 then converted to hrTSS. rTSS is a method of tackling TSS the training peaks will sometimes use which is based on the pace that you’re moving and it’s perception of how hard that might be for you. If you’re walking in zone one or using hilly terrain this method can be wildly inaccurate. It’s mostly meant for runners doing workouts on a track or similar in fairly controlled circumstances that have their various paces dialed in in the training peaks settings. Mountaineers it’s not generally super useful for us so we change everything to hrTSS. This allows for a slightly more apples to apples comparison between different kinds of workouts in varying terrain.
ModeratorI have had good luck with the garmin/Fenix watches and also with the Garmin Forerunner 245 if you’re looking for a price point watch but still with tons of features and good battery life. Can sometimes find it onsale for close to $200.
ModeratorDid it change from rTSS to hrTSS potentially??
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ModeratorOne Thing I have had folks do to start the trouble shooting process is to go into their Garmin connect on the computer (or phone app) and see if the data is there. This will make sure it got recorded properly and that its and issue between the garmin and trainingpeaks not between the device and garmin connect. Also once in a while it just won’t show up for a day or two the appears for no reason.
ModeratorMarkPostle on May 16, 2022 at 2:43 pm · in reply to: AeT threshold Test Results and Discussion #67271Indeed, try again on a future day at about +5 bpm harder than this round
ModeratorMarkPostle on May 16, 2022 at 2:13 pm · in reply to: AeT threshold Test Results and Discussion #67268Coros watches are great otherwise. The power thing for running just isn’t quite there yet. I can’t wait until it is. In cycling its amazing as you can actually measure it directly, in running its less perfect. Just a heads up there is a sticky thread at the top of our forum where everyone is sharing their locales etc if they want. You may want to post in there as well regarding your location and goals.
ModeratorMarkPostle on May 16, 2022 at 2:07 pm · in reply to: AeT threshold Test Results and Discussion #67265Carl, Were going to chat about the interpretation of the results on this weeks zoom a bit more. Sounds like you’re test went fairly well actually. FWIW I would 100% disregard the zone info from Garmin (or any other platform for that matter) where you don’t have transparency into how it calculated and if what they’re calling Zone 2 the same as how were defining it.
ModeratorMarkPostle on May 16, 2022 at 2:04 pm · in reply to: AeT threshold Test Results and Discussion #67264Marty, Every watch/system is a little different in how it works with trainingpeaks. You can go into the settings (the little gear wheels once you open the activity but before you click analyze) and customize which parameters you would like under run, bike, strength etc. Some watches really want to import the power data which isn’t usually very accurate or helpful. One trick I have had some luck with is to change the activity from an run to a walk then you should be back to pace:HR which is what you’re after.
ModeratorChad, Your experience here is very typical in 2 ways. 1) different days will produce slightly different results. 2) Many times your AeT pace is slower that your thought/hoped. I would use 134 and see how you recover day to day with the understanding that this is your AeT not your target training HR. Your zone 2 will be 121-134 and I would suspect as long as you are in that range you’ll be sub AeT and get the desired effect. We are going to dig into the test results and interpretation more on this weeks zoom.