Sounds like that would work if you start it after a warmup when your HR stabilizes at that pace, and then if you quickly end and begin the next one after 30 mins while still moving at same speed.
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Participanthikerobby on November 13, 2020 at 4:04 pm · in reply to: What is constant heart rate and gently rolling hills #46818Participant
I finally did my Ant test after proper rest and it came out to 168 not 143! So I recalculated all my workouts the past 7 weeks and my CTL fell from 156 to 150! Lots of lower Hrtss scores, though they are now closer to my rtss scores. I was surprised that I was approaching CTL60 bc I didn’t feel in THAT great of shape yet. 49 seems more reasonable, this will also help w Mtn Biking when I have super high HR values going up steep hills. Incidentally, my Form when I wrote this post was -35 even though I was not very tired. It now retroactively says my form at this time was -17.
Participanthikerobby on November 12, 2020 at 11:39 pm · in reply to: 10 weeks into training my AeT is going down and I’m getting slower? #46752This reminds me of something I read on here, where Cory Richards was sad all the other climbers were fitter and faster than him, but in the end they all turned around and he submitted Everest bc of this Aet training. Perhaps you do get slower if you’ve done lots of Zone 4 training.
My question is, outside of an 8,000m peak where these adaptations are certainly helpful–isn’t faster better?
ParticipantI’m still confused about why my 12 mile Mtn Bike ride gave me a 360tss. If my AnT is set too low (which is likely for running/hiking), whouldn’t that be off-set by the fact that threshold rates for cycling are 10-20 bpms lower than for running??
ParticipantParticipantI have done the AeT drift test twice, on my first day of the 24-week plan (one was 133 and another seemed like it might be lower, more like 126). I did this as explained in the mountaineering plan. The plan has not instructed me to do a AnT test yet but I used the instructions here, to set up my Zones in TP: https://uphillathlete.com/how-to-set-up-your-training-intensity-zones/
So using the video’s instructions, since my AeT is 133, my Z1=106-119, Z2=120-133, Z3=134-143, and Z4=144-185
But what Scott and Owen are telling me is that I ought to do the AnT self-test and if I use that for the top of my Zone 3, then perhaps my Tss scores will be much lower and that I am getting high Tss scores while mountain biking bc it is likely too low??
ParticipantI didn’t think I had confused the numbers. But your reply has confused me. Trying to keep below my AeT is difficult and I need to be intentional and alone to walk/hike and keep my HR between 120-133. Any sort of hill spikes my HR into Zone 3 or 4. Out with friends Mountain Biking or scrambling spikes it extra high often above 160 for climbs so TP gives me a Tss of 360 for a basic 12 mile ride which seems incongruent with perceived effort. According to Scott, 360 is a massive day, not a 12 mile ride.
ParticipantI ended up buying the 24 week full meal deal. Beginning week three now! I’m happy with the big plan bc I can understand it’s methodology better and repeat certain parts of it as needed. I am already finding it challenging bc I went on a two day road ride last weekend, ended up working out 13 days in a row, then this weekend went mountain biking one day and backpacking two days. It’s kind of confusing, all the different Tss values (some excessively high, others not high enough) but it is helpful to be aware of fatigue and to have a plan that slows me down from ramping up to quickly. I probably have never had a true aerobic base, mostly I’ve done things off the coach and was young enough to have that work. I am excited for the potential benefits of actually having a base. Although I have to say, going that slow is hard, 133 BPM is really challenging to stay below!!
ParticipantYeah it’s hard to choose bc I mountain bike in spring and fall, ski tour in winter, climb volcanos in spring, and then backpack and climb granite in summer. I guess if I had to choose I would choose to peak in august for big granite alpine peaks, but then maintain the rest of the year.