Thanks for chipping in with your experience. In general, I’m continuing to see a raised HR compared to where I was 18 months ago but am back to training as I’m rarely getting into Zone 3/4 and I don’t have any symptoms when exercising (Am currntly using the 20 week Luk eNelson plan which seems to be going OK). It just means that quite a bit of what would have been Zone 1 training is now Zone 2. I’m still noticing the ectopics, usually when supine at night on my left side. I’m also monitoring HRV too. I have been back to the doctor but they are not willing to investigate any further. Very few health professionals here are willing to even begin a conevrsation about possible correlations to the v. Ideally I would like an MRI to check if there is any sign of damage as a result of iflamation but that won’t happen unless I pay for the scan. I’ve been taking Nattokinase as well NAC and do supplement with fish oil and magnesium as well as some curcumin. I might look into the possibility of reservatol also. Thanks again for the respnse and take care…
davelockyer101
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ParticipantParticipantdavelockyer101 on December 14, 2022 at 10:42 am · in reply to: AeT Test completed on Elliptical #73684
Thanks. I think the pace came from me setting the distance at the end of the activity. The rpm (68) was consistent throughout the activity once I’d warmed up and only drifted by 1-2 rpm. 154 sounds about right. I performed a similar nose breathing test about 3 years ago and it came to 155.
ParticipantThanks. The fatigue has definitely improved in the last month and I feel OK healthwise apart from the occassional ectopics. Most of my training is below AeT most of the time anyway. I do a few progression workouts on the elliptical which take me above for the last 10-15 mins but everything else is endurance, although there’s a lot more at upper Zone 2 than usual due to the elevated HR. It’s pretty hard to get referred for any further test here and I’m considering buying an ECG device so I can check things out myself. Do you have any suggestions for how I could mix things up a bit. I don’t have any particular agenda over the winter apart from maintaining fitness and sprinkling in some functional strength training once a week…
ParticipantThanks for the interest. Last summer I built up to a fastpack challenge with most weeks at about 7-10 hrs of training on non peak weeks but also with quite a bit of work/life stress coming out of lockdown here in the UK. Looking back at the data, I think the issues started after a fastpack attempt in Sept which I abandonned with suspected Rhadbo (I think did an ME workout too soon before this with muscle damage still in the system). I felt unwell for a couple of weeks after this and the ectopics started roughly about the same time. I reduced my training and kept things really gentle, with a lot of hiking but looking back the heart rate became elevated around the same time. Stress wise things have really settled down and I’m back into about 5-7 hours of training each week but for some reason the heart rate still feels super sensitive to any increase in effort. If I did overdo it then could it still be elevated a year later and what can I do to bring it down?
ParticipantI’m not sure if I had Covid unless I was asymptomatic. The ectopics were happening several times a day to start with but are now less noticeable and mainly at bedtime when supine. I had an ECG which picked up the ectopics but nothing else and the echo cardiogram didn’t show anything physically wrong with the heart. Bloodwork hasn’t shown anything either. I was suffering from deep faitgue but this has improved a lot in the past month. I’m able to train OK but with my HR being a Zone above where it typically was and with no adaptation happening it means that at an easy pace I’m in upper Zone 2 when I would usually be in Zone 1. It’s all been very puzzling and I was hoping things would settle down but a year later there doesn’t seem to be any improvement. I could just forget about it and accept that my Zones have changed but I know there’s something not quite right which I’ve been trying to get to the bottom of. The doctors are reluctant to recommend further tests here in the UK and going private is very expensive….
ParticipantUpdate on this – I got to see the cardiologist after the echocardiogram and he diagnosed ectopic heart beats and gave me the all clear to resume training. I explained about the hike in HR when exercising and he suggested I throw away the HR strap and not worry about it. I haven’t done that and my HR is still a good 10-15 bpm above where it should be when exercising. Running feels like harder work than it should but I’m getting out and gradually building up some moderate volume hoping it will settle down. I’m wondering is I should go back to some very low Z1 activities (which will be power walking)
and wait for the HR to settle down?Participantdavelockyer101 on March 30, 2022 at 12:42 pm · in reply to: European Mountain Vacations in September #64904That should read UTMB…
Participantdavelockyer101 on March 30, 2022 at 12:40 pm · in reply to: European Mountain Vacations in September #64903One option might be to go to Chamonix and then do the UTB circuit over 3 days staying in the Refuges. I think anywhere in the Alps might be a little unpredictable at that time of year weatherwise but you may get lucky…. Other than that the Dolomites look nice 🙂
Participantdavelockyer101 on March 28, 2022 at 12:41 pm · in reply to: Trouble figuring out volume for plan #64829I’d be interested to hear how you get on. I’m considering using the same plan for multiday fastpacks but aiming at just a few days long and minimal sleep so 100-120k daily distances with much less vert than you have planned…
Participantdavelockyer101 on March 9, 2022 at 11:58 pm · in reply to: Training Plan for 200 miler/multi day #64078Thanks, Scott. Yes, I’ve read and enjoyed the article and podcast. I’m always on the lookout for anything TDG related as it’s one I’d love to do… Thanks for the great resources!
ParticipantUpdate – Still trying to get to the bottom of this. I’ve had an ECG which didn’t show anything and am awaiting results of an Echocardiogram. The HR settle down for a few weeks but recently began to spike again when exercising. What would usually be a relatively moderate Zone 1 effort sends it up into Z3/Z4. My respiratory rate doesn’t seem to change (I’m not panting at what is above my LT). Am hoping the echocardiogram sheds some light on things when I sit with the cardiologist to discuss the results….
Participantdavelockyer101 on January 15, 2022 at 12:58 pm · in reply to: Reasons for a sudden hike in HR? #62171So, I’ve replaced the strap and can eliminate that as the issue as my HR is still elevated. Pretty frustrating as what would have been a Zone 1 run is now upper Zone 2. I’m wondering if it is after stress induced rather than any underlying physiological issue. I guess this is similar to an overtraining scenario? Can stress trigger a sustained elevation in heart rate and what’s the protocol for recovering from this?
ParticipantI think the strap may not be working properly. I do try and keep the batteries fresh and replace thos when I start to get some spiking in the data. Thanks anyway. Like you said, the straps can be a bit tempermental, especially when dry…
ParticipantAs an update, I’ve been drilling into this a bit more and it turns out I replaced the soft strap of my Garmin HRM at the time that the HR data jumped. I really shoul dhave noticed this! I’m wondering if this might be a factor (there’s a been a mix of health things going on too which may have been distracting me) and have ordered a new strap. It looks like witht he new strap the HR accuracy is not too bad when at low Zone 1 on the elliptical or on a flat course but when I introduce some undulation and things start to get into Zone 2 the strap accuracy starts to deteriorate. That’s my latest theory anyway…. Will try the new strap and report back 🙂
Participantdavelockyer101 on January 6, 2022 at 12:22 pm · in reply to: Reasons for a sudden hike in HR? #61675Some good questions. It’s an all weather track so not much variation in terms of surface etc.. and my HR has been pretty consistent een with weatehr variations. If anything it should go down in the Autumn due to the cooler weather. I’ve attached some of the data where I’ve isolatd runs done on this particular loop and some comments that may or may not be relevant.
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