Will do (let me know if deleting the post here makes sense)…
Jon44
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+ Is there any medical resource for coping with overtraining?
Just wanted to follow-up here to keep related topics together. I’ve taken 6 weeks off training now after feeling acute symptoms of overtraining and still get exhausted after 20 minutes of swimming as lightly as I can. This is the first non-orthopedic medical condition I’ve ever faced and am getting concerned.
So wondering if there’s any physician or other medical specialist who might specialize in this condition and be able to offer guidance (e.g., rule out some heart issue)–perhaps a team physician who does telephone consult?Can’t answer your question, but interesting tidbit I heard recently was there’s a theory that heart rate drift isn’t what people think and might just be your body’s way to thermoregulate itself. So, even if heart rate drifts up, stroke volume goes down, so your overall cardiac output is in fact staying the same…
Al, thanks again for the feedback–so by saying you had better luck adding volume sooner, it sounds like you’re saying the metric is directly helping you avoid an overtrained state. (Or at least serving as a check.) I’m in–I just need to mount a campaign to get the app developer to create an app for the Samsung watch 🙂
And FYI for you and Brittany—in the podcast I linked to above with a physician doing a lot of research in this area, they state definitively that you want Bluetooth, not ANT. (Higher sampling rate and better error correction is the way I understood it.)
Al,
Thanks for very helpful feedback. Just one follow-up question: based on your experience of the DFAa1 tanking after heavy training, do you see monitoring it as offering any unique advantages to help prevent over-training?Jon44 on July 26, 2021 at 1:54 pm · in reply to: How do you deal with depression and stress from injury #55980Sorry you’re going through this. One piece of advice I found helpful was to allow yourself to acknowledge what a loss this is to you and process it like you would other significant losses. (E.g., acknowledge how much you were looking forward to the season, as you seem to be doing, and mourn its absence.)
Also, if he’s your cup of tea, Jordan Peterson has two relevant chapters in his new book (I’m just planning to read the second one tonight). Avoiding anger and resentment in the face of misfortune and being thankful in spite of suffering.Lindsay:
Thanks for your summary analysis.FYI, one of the links had this podcast discussion of the topic that sounds worth listening to:
http://www.muscleoxygentraining.com/2021/01/dfa-a1-and-exercise-intensity-faq.htmlI don’t want to encourage risk of overtraining, but my experience of being at that level of activity was climbing (especially at the gym) felt more like a stretch than a high stressor. (The general wisdom was always that it really mostly depended on muscles from your elbow to your fingertips, so not something that taxes the aerobic or other central systems very much.)
To that extent that gym climbing exercises your core muscles (say, with overhangs and the like), I’d just say those muscles have incredible endurance (see guy who finished the Vasaloppet ski marathon just double-poling).Thanks Scott, that’s very helpful (both hearing more about your experience and having a general framework to understand the phenomenon.)
The double-edged sword of reaching a new performance potential rings particularly true (and matches experience I’ve had managing congenital joint issues–new levels of function have always come with new risks.)Scott, appreciate your articles on orthostatic test and how it compares to the HRV apps. Do you know of an app that walks you through the orthostatic test? (E.g., beeps when it’s time to stand up, collects and graphs the data over time.) Feels like it’d be easier to devote the 5 or 6 minutes a day if it wasn’t necessary to also do number crunching, plotting, etc.