Odd question… What altitude do you live/train
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Same for me. It’s broken. But if you use the search function at the top of the forum page you will get a result.
Equipment can surely make a hr reading spike. It won’t make your breathing go up. If running on a track the only breathing increase would be running harder due to a low reading from the monitor. But then you should see an increase in speed or distance over a set time.
So two different things going on? A medical and equipment problem? Or perhaps an equipment problem leading to increased effort and you not paying enough attention to what’s happening from run to run?
Either way multi problems at one time can be frustrating to fix.
Are your breathing issues only when you exercise or also at rest? Definitely get cleared by a doctor. Lots of odd infections beyond covid happening these days. Any lack of oxygen including breathing issues will make the hr go up.
bback on December 29, 2021 at 8:36 am · in reply to: Tweaking the Training Programme for Multi Day Fastpacking #61271I’m also in a similar boat. While not an expert, so grain of salt, the differences For me seem to depend on how long one runs per day and how heavy the pack is. I can see needing increased strength like a mountaineer or skimo athlete to safely carry the pack.
So for me my hike will look more like a slow motion fkt in an anish/Heather Anderson style with no running. So a fastpack starts looking like a stage race the more days involved. While running most of the day starts looking like a 200 mile ultra?
I’m guessing the real difference would be strength/me to handle the pack and energy management/specific type training for your type of event.
Lack of recovery? Enough sleep, food, rest weeks?
Lack of Strength or ME? I know this caused problems for me. I stalled until I ran the plan as advertised to include ME work. Then the aet went up steady.
Around here I’ve only heard people talk about flat running for very specific reasons(recovery, speedwork, workout before a hard effort[volume], etc). Otherwise, It’s rolling hills to steep depending on where one is at in a training plan and what energy system is being trained. That seems to be the same for when a person starts using loaded pack training.
As I understand it (I’m a nobody and could be wrong), the difference between the workouts is the energy system. So what rolling hills means to each person is unique to them and their fitness for z1 or z2 while still having the ability to recovery between workouts.
You talked about inefficient running. Does your goal event require efficient running? Mine doesn’t. I just shuffle jog like a high speed mental ward patient to get my heart rate up to z2. With the rolling terrain outside my front door I have trouble getting to z2 in a 1.5 hour walk/hike. If I add a pack to get my heart rate up I end up making every workout a strength workout due to the weight being so high. Thus I would not be working the correct energy system and have zero recovery.
Scott, thank you for the reply.
I will take your advice and stick with TFTNA book and the 24 week plan. To keep from following it too soon I will purchase it at the end of this year.
I definitely have given this entire year to removing ADS from my life. It’s going well so far. But running at 8,000feet will be delayed. I will even move into next year if necessary. I know that overcoming ADS is priority #1.
I will definitely think more about moderating the pace, hiking hours and mileage with load. I already do some of that but I usually plan the week of hiking to set myself up for splitting the really big climbs. So I sleep halfway up and tackle the rest the next morning. The only real place that is almost impossible is the Sierra.
The rest of your questions about the thru hike were caused by my editing of my background. It was starting to look like a novel. I apologize. I prepared for my previous thru hike of the pct by what was described as weakened warrior style. I did hike the trail. So I am not going from a weekend warrior to a fast thru hike. I see it more as hiking Everest, just making it and then coming back in peak form and trying to do it two weeks door to door. Although that sounds a lot harder than going for a really long walk. LOL.
As for days off, it’s actually taking days off in order to stay in town without taking a full day off and then a partial the next day. It still involves 20-24 hours off and staying off trail in a hotel/hostel during a resupply stop.