[Silviana Ciurea Ilcus]

I’m still a bit confused about when we should tinker with the TSS. If I am doing a weighted hike (carrying 10% body weight up 3000ft), should I add 40TSS to the hrTSS? Or should I not be modifying the TSS if I am using hrTSS?

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[Coach]

Coach on June 23, 2022 at 4:28 pm #68481

You should always be using hrTSS for any aerobic/anaerobic activity! So if you did a hike with 3,000ft and 10% body weight you should add an additional 40TSS on top of your hrTSS. As long as you are consistent with the way you add TSS onto weighted uphill hikes your data will work great! This is how I calculate it additional TSS for my athletes.

This article explains it in another way, slightly different than Carolyn and I calculate but the same exact idea with other examples: https://uphillathlete.com/aerobic-training/trainingpeaks-metrics-ctl-tss/

I hope that helps!
Maya

[Pia Lichtblau]

Pia Lichtblau on June 24, 2022 at 8:02 am #68504

It seems there is a link missing – which article do you refer to?

[Coach]

Coach on June 26, 2022 at 8:50 am #68533

Oh no, I can see the link! I will try and post it again: https://uphillathlete.com/aerobic-training/trainingpeaks-metrics-ctl-tss/

Did that work?

[Janet B]

Janet B on June 29, 2022 at 2:39 pm #68689

Thank you, Maya. Yes, the link was there in both posts.

For the hike with weight, are you suggesting adding 10TSS to the hike’s hrTSS if you are carrying 10% or more of bodyweight, regardless of the length of the hike? As opposed to adding 10TSS for 10%, 20TSS for 20% of bodyweight, etc? Carrying a 15 lb pack vs. a 45 lb pack is a big difference, so I’m curious if we can/should accommodate for that.

Makes sense to be consistent regardless of how you calculate it.
Thanks!
Janet

[Coach]

Coach on June 29, 2022 at 3:02 pm #68690

If you are carrying 20% body weight, add an additional 10TSS. If you want to add that/hour or per 1,000ft, that is up to you. I differ from that article, and I am pretty sure CP does too. I count the weight once rather than per/1,000ft, as the article says. So if you are going out for a 2hrs hike with 20% body weight and 2,000ft elevation gain, I would add 20TSS for the weight and 20TSS for the vertical. The time is accounted for based on your hrTSS, so the longer you go, the higher the number is that you add on to. For a 4hr hike with 20% body weight and 4,000vertical ft. I would add 60TSS to hrTSS. 20TSS for the weight and 40TSS for the vert.

Make sense? Either way works, just depends on how you want to do it 🙂
Maya

[Janet B]

Janet B on June 29, 2022 at 3:26 pm #68692

Yes, makes total sense. Thank you for spelling it out, Maya!
Janet

[Suzanne Hackett]

Suzanne Hackett on January 23, 2023 at 3:02 pm #75015

Hi there
When I try to add to hrTSS in TP to adjust for altitude gain, it defaults to TSS i.e it won’t stay on hrTSS. I used to be able to change it but I realised recently I’d been forgetting to adjust it so want to go back through my schedule to tweak it. Any ideas/insights?