Several years ago Scott Johnston helped Adrian Ballinger (partnered with Cory Richards) prepare for his successful ascent of Mt Everest’s North Ridge without the use of supplemental bottled oxygen. In this episode, the two discuss the training and preparation process for attempting big mountains, and having realistic expectations while on expedition. Adrian is an IFMGA certified mountain guide and the owner of Alpenglow Expeditions. Adrian has lead over 150 international climbing expeditions on six continents, and made seventeen successful summits of 8000 meter peaks. In sharp contrast, Scott has tried and failed to summit three 8000 meter peaks.