Scott, haha. Fair enough! Sometimes I miss the good old days before I could afford fancy gadgets, and the shenanigans that come with them. I remember growing up around my dad and his climbing buddies, wondering why they spent so much time talking about stuff that didn’t seem all that important, and here I am, at 30, doing what they did. That didn’t take long! Omegawave seems cool, but message received to stop talking about gadgets and go climb something.
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I’m not sure what to make of Scott or gtom’s responses. Scott apparently you’re not a fan of the fact that they’re good at marketing? I agree their marketing warrants an eye-roll for the outdoor crowd, but not sure how that disqualifies them as something worth at least talking about.
And gtom, it seems your overall statement is that HRV should be evaluated as part of a matrix of information, which is what Whoop does. I’m guessing you haven’t used one?
I think gtom’s last paragraph is the most salient, and really gets at the heart of my original post. I personally agree with dansweet. There are some blind spots in its overall analysis of physical strain, but Whoop as a product does solve several problems that were brought up in the original post about HRV monitoring I was referencing, and at least 2 of us who have actually used them have found Whoop to produce a positive impact on our lifestyles and training, which is more that I can say for 99% of wearable devices out there today, and from the sounds of it more or less all other HRV apps.
The challenge in my mind is whether its worth 30 bucks a month forever. I’ve committed to 6 months in order to pay off the initial cost of the band, and in my mind, at $180, that’s not a half bad deal to get some statics on how your body is responding to strain and recovery. As a temporary thing that you can then use to glean some information about your body and carry that forward, no longer wearing the band, its not a bad deal. The question is whether its worth continuing the membership after you’ve learned what you need to.
I’m leaning towards no, that that $30 per month can be better used in other places once I learn what I’d like to from Whoop. That said, I will admit it seems to have predicted me getting sick this past week. My HRV was off, and my recovery score was weirdly low. I looked at it each morning after getting a solid 8 hours of sleep and resting the day before, and my recovery is only 46%. Kinda shrugged it off and went to the gym. Next day, same thing. Day after that, sick. Sounds like other people have had similar experiences. Anecdotal I know, and Whoop is careful to not market this as a predictor of you getting sick, but it’s an interesting development that mighhhttt make it worth keeping Whoop on at least during the most significant parts of a training program. Like pause the membership most of the year and turn it on when you really ramp things up in the middle of a period. Probably not, and the obvious thing to do is to just know thyself and all that. But kinda cool having some numbers to put to the amorphous “am I ready to train today” question that comes up pretty much daily for most athletes. Worth at least a conversation IMO, it does seem Whoop is on to something, even if its not perfect.
Participantshawnryan on October 11, 2017 at 10:56 am · in reply to: Notes from the middle of eight-week ice and mixed strength train program #6381Hey Bruno, thanks for the detailed post. I ran in to a lot of the same issues as you with the ice tool hangs. I’m always wondering if I’m actually doing these the way they were envisioned. Scott and Steve, if you’re looking for video ideas, this would be a good one!
As for the dips, the best/ cheapest apparatus for doing these at home I’ve found is just a simple folding walker like the one below. They work surprisingly well for dips! I’d imagine similar versions are available in Europe. Its really convenient to fold it up and stash it in a closet when not using it.
ParticipantThanks Steve! I appreciate the info. Of course! Good old wheelbarrows. Great idea. Did them yesterday with a buddy, will wear gloves next time! And in general your prescription for ME with weights definitely gave me ideas for others. Very helpful. Thanks again.
Also, not sure if I’m the only one experiencing this, but in your forums I can’t see the original post that goes up with a topic. I googled the issue thinking I was doing something wrong, and from reading some posts, it looks like it might be an issue with wordpress 4.0? Seems like often the admins will be able to see everything just fine, but some (all?) regular users won’t be able to? Curious if I’m the only one experiencing this.
Thanks again. -Shawn R.
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