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asmiller0 on October 9, 2021 at 10:52 am · in reply to: Zone 1 or 2 immediately after Strength Training #57841

it turns out that the AMPk pathway also has a dampening effect on the mTOR pathway… The opposite effect of mTOR dampening the AMPk pathway seems to be no where near as strong.

Thank you, Scott! That is exactly the information I was looking for and the science is fascinating. A follow-up question: Does the dampening effect on the mTOR pathway only last for a short time (few hours) or does it effect the entire training for a bodybuilder?

Thanks everyone for your input and sharing your experiences. For the most part, I am separating my workouts completely now, but it’s good to know that I can address weak areas in short duration before an aerobic session if I am crunched for time.

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asmiller0 on October 6, 2021 at 5:13 pm · in reply to: Zone 1 or 2 immediately after Strength Training #57753

Can you clarify what you mean by hike in/out being beneficial with respect to heart rate while climbing?

Just like if I was training Z1/2 aerobic specifically to form my Base fitness, it would be detrimental to the Base training to go into higher heart rate zones. I just want to know if a high heart rate just before starting a Z1/2 session would have that same negative effect in regards to BASE fitness. Or is a 30 min Z1/2 session beneficial to Base no matter when it’s done.

Thanks Sashi and Lindsay for your feedback..

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asmiller0 on October 5, 2021 at 10:05 pm · in reply to: Zone 1 or 2 immediately after Strength Training #57689

One final question to help me understand. I’ve scoured 30 pages of the training forum and haven’t found a similar question. I still don’t have a concrete answer to my original question. Though I am taking the advice and splitting strength and aerobic days, I still want to understand the science behind the reasoning.

If my outdoor climbing location has a 30 minute approach, would the hike in and/or out be a beneficial Zone 1 or 2 aerobic session if my heart rate was elevated during climbing?

Thank you!

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asmiller0 on October 1, 2021 at 12:08 pm · in reply to: Zone 1 or 2 immediately after Strength Training #57505

If I set out to do Zone 1 training, what is the effect if my heart rate elevates into Zone 3 for a minute or two throughout the training? Does that diminish the base training effect?

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asmiller0 on September 28, 2021 at 3:00 pm · in reply to: Zone 1 or 2 immediately after Strength Training #57411

Hey Shashi. Thanks for your input.

To be clear, I have been following structured workout plans for close to 20 years now, but almost exclusively for weight lifting/ bodybuilding. It’s hard for me to give up all my strength training to replace it with just aerobic, but as the book says, “something has to give”, and I am willing to forego strength training to become a better alpinist. Total work out time per week is easily 8 hours or more with my long hike day and climbing day.

I have always lifted 3 or 4 times a week. Currently, I am working with a trainer who specializes in rock climbing and he has me in the gym strength training 4 times a week. I started introducing zone 1 aerobic training again in 20 – 25 minute sessions immediately following each workout (total time in the gym is about 90 minutes). But after this week, my plan is to cut the strength training in half (2 days per week), as long as that will suffice for my upper body training– (I hired the trainer to help me get past my Medial epicondylitis, so I want to be sure 2 days per week will still help my “Climber’s Elbow”).

Thanks again. I will look into the references you shared.