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hokiehead on April 8, 2021 at 9:49 am · in reply to: Cannot yet run in Z1/Z2 for training period duration #52916

update:
shortly after the OP, I took advantage of an opportunity to run “down the hill” in Denver (my home and usual running routes are >8500′). I had little difficulty staying in HZ2 at that elevation for about 45 minutes

since then, I’ve made it a point to run in Denver or Boulder at least twice a week and my form is improving notably. Also, I’m now able to hold HZ2 running > 8500′ for 2 – 3 miles (until I hit a hill.

plans to do the heart drift test next week with a friend, probably somewhere around Boulder.

thanks all for the advice

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hokiehead on March 12, 2021 at 6:14 am · in reply to: Cannot yet run in Z1/Z2 for training period duration #51952

AshRick, thanks. Intuitively what you’re saying makes sense. do you recommend waiting for both the AeT and AnT tests, or were you specifically referring to one or the other?

Shashi, your tag of ‘moderator’ grants your quite a bit of credibility and your comment about doing the tests first is still forefront in my mind. Let me know if your opinion shifted wrt AshRick’s comments about being able to run for the duration before testing. What he says about my HR bouncing all over and affecting the test results is resonating, but then, a lot of structured training concepts are counter-intuitive and I’m likely missing something.

thanks all for the suggestions. very much appreciated.

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hokiehead on March 11, 2021 at 12:40 pm · in reply to: Cannot yet run in Z1/Z2 for training period duration #51928

thanks!

Shashi, yes AeT/Ant is 14%. However…. AeT is based on MAF and AnT is based on average heart rate during the second half of an indoor cycling FTP test, so more margin of error than I’d like to see. I’ll do the LT test described on page 155 once I can run at least 30 minutes.

clarification questions. since the run/walk strategy is confirmed, am I correct that I should transition to running as soon as I enter Z3? likewise, should I start running again as soon as I drop to Z1, or should I let it fall all the way to a Recovery HR?

Lindsay, that’s a really good suggestion to get me over this initial hurdle that wouldn’t have occurred to me. I’m looking into that now.

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hokiehead on March 11, 2021 at 11:13 am · in reply to: ADS enquiry #51914

done. apologies if I wasn’t conforming to the “forum norms” here. I’m a new poster on uphillathlete; other forums in which I participate discourage starting new threads in favor of finding one related to another member’s new point or question.

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hokiehead on March 11, 2021 at 8:06 am · in reply to: ADS enquiry #51899

Trying to more rigorously adopt the training from TFTNA. I’m in the midst of “Transition Week 1” right now. One of my challenges is that most of my conditioning for the previous year has been on an indoor bike, not ground based.

On my indoor bike, I can ride fairly aggressively and hold Z1/Z2 for over an hour, but when running, I get into Z3 after about 3/4 mile, no matter how slowly I go. My strategy this week has been to monitor my HR, and take walk breaks whenever I enter Z3, and then resume running when I get to Z1. graph attached.

is this a recommended strategy until I can run for 45 minutes w/out walk breaks, or is there something better?

a few notes:

• I’m using a chest strap HRM, connected to a Garmin Fenix 5x
• I live and do almost all aerobic training between 8500′ – 9000′
• short term goals are to be able to complete big days run/walking in the Colorado high peaks this summer (e.g. Wilson traverse, 22mi, 8600′ gain)
• longer term goals are Rainier (next year) and Denali (2 years)

TIA

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