That’s too bad the results weren’t ideal. Thanks for posting anyway and also the process you used for getting the data. I will use your method next time I get the test done.
mountain_stoke
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mountain_stoke on April 23, 2018 at 7:16 am · in reply to: Testing VT1 and VT2 Using HRV! Find AeT and AnT on a budget? #9488mountain_stoke on April 21, 2018 at 4:07 am · in reply to: Testing VT1 and VT2 Using HRV! Find AeT and AnT on a budget? #9456
@Richie –
It’s good to hear more about Kubios. I will definitely download that and try it out; thanks for the tip.
I look forward to seeing your test findings when you post them.
mountain_stoke on April 14, 2018 at 10:24 am · in reply to: Testing VT1 and VT2 Using HRV! Find AeT and AnT on a budget? #9362Thanks Scott! Yes, lactate was tested. See the attached screenshot of the result. Lactate value was at 1.6mM at both MEP the inflection point/ VT1 at Heart Rate of 152bpm since my lactate values were very flat up until VT1. Interestingly enough it occurs exactly at the FatMax inflection point. VT2 occured at 3.7mM lactate at 183 bpm
To your point about seeing very high MEPs on athletes, I have been reading this book: “Metabolic Efficiency Training” by Bob Seebohar. He has numerous case studies in his book, some of which had MEP values that were off the charts on the left (SEVERE aerobic deficiency) and then some of which had MEP values literally off the charts on the right (INCREDIBLE aerobic efficiency). For both of these situation there is no crossover point on the plots but for totally different reasons.
Anyway, yeah fixing my own plots is going to take a lot of work, but I’m excited to give it a go.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.mountain_stoke on April 13, 2018 at 9:06 am · in reply to: Testing VT1 and VT2 Using HRV! Find AeT and AnT on a budget? #9327I should mention that Scott J told me it would be a good idea to focus more heavily on sub-MEP intensities when starting out because MEP should respond quickly and then I should increase percentage of volume of proper Zone 2 training as I go on. So I plan to adjust my plan accordingly.
mountain_stoke on April 13, 2018 at 8:50 am · in reply to: Testing VT1 and VT2 Using HRV! Find AeT and AnT on a budget? #9324Okay, here we go. Please see the attachment. HRV test results (see gray line) are very encouraging as an indicator for the Metabolic Efficiency Point (MEP) or 50/50 Fat/Carb crossover point, not at all as a good indicator of AeT/VT1. Next time I test I will try to take extra data points for HRV to create a more compelling plot. As you can see, I am currently in a state of aerobic deficiency and my MEP/crossover point is much lower than I want it to be – it is way left of my AeT. Also- maybe interesting to note, my nosebreathing limit is around that MEP point, not at my AeT… although I am convinced I have narrow nasal passages.
I am going to start a new high volume training cycle and incorporate a high fat, clean diet using my new zones in a fasted state. Will focus on uphills in Zone 2 to increase aerobic capacity and all downhills jogging in Zone 1 below MEP to increase MEP. Going to shoot for 65% in Zone 2 (Uphill), 35% Zone 1 (Downhill) for now. The lab test guy thought this sounded reasonable. He said since my fat oxidation rate was very flat up to AeT and didn’t drop off at all before AeT, it would be best to focus on Zone 2 work primarily as opposed to primarily below MEP work.
Hopefully I can drop 10lbs of my pesky bodybuilder muscle-mass remaining from my misspent youth so I can get faster. I created an app on my Suunto Ambit Peak 3 that will take 1 minute averages of HRV during my workouts, so I can hopefully track these values and see my MEP move upward as the weeks go by.
I plan to test again in 3 months to make sure my program is having the desired effect on my MEP.
Would love to hear feedback and what you think of this plan. I will post results here again after my next set of lab tests!
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You must be logged in to view attached files.Lindsay,
You need to adjust your training zones to compensate for the effects of temperature and cold on your body.