[baracocol]

Hello everyone, I bought the big vert plan (which I will follow from the end of May) and I read the book Training for uphill athlete, I tried the cardiac drift test at 135-145-150-155 but even at 160 bpm it did not fit. 3.5-5% range; I did the lactate test on 2 occasions and I posted them on another thread, I summarize the most significant:

mmol FC
3.9 rest
2.3 110
2.2 117
2.6 126
2.2 138
2.6 149
2.7 158
3.6 164
5.5 171

Saturday I did a long 15km climb and it turned out to be a 90min HR of 163 bpm and then I continued running downhill for another 15km to get back to the car, then more or less did the same thing on Sunday and Monday. I set 155 bpm as the aerobic threshold and 170 as the anaerobic threshold (I did the test proposed in the book) but I think it is underestimated, especially considering the Z3 Uphill (like 3x10min) which I think would be too simple. What do you think ?

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[baracocol]

baracocol on May 14, 2021 at 2:40 am #54005

This is the full lactate test results doing in the morning:

Kmh mmol FC
0 3,9
5 2,4
6 2,3
7 2,3 110
8 2,2 117
9 2,6 126
10 2,2 138
11 2,6 149
12 2,7 158
13 3,6 164
14 5,5 171

This is the full lactate test results doing in the evening:

Kmh mmol FC
0 6,5
5 2,4
6 2,3
7 2,7 119
8 2,4 128
9 2,6 141
10 2,8 149
11 3,8 157
12 4,4 165
13 5,1 170
14 8 175

No food within 5 hours, good warm up

[GuillaumeM]

GuillaumeM on May 14, 2021 at 10:03 am #54015

Hi,
I can’t comment about lactate test or results, but there is no reason for your AeT to be less or equal than 160 BPM. I mean it could be higher depending on your training background

[Thomas Summer, MD]

Thomas Summer, MD on May 14, 2021 at 11:23 pm #54029

Hi!

are you sure that the lactate results are correct?
What is your RPE at these intensities? Nose breathing…

[baracocol]

baracocol on May 15, 2021 at 12:05 am #54031

Lactate test ok, I make it in a good lab, my nose breathing is ok until 160-165

[Dada]

Dada on May 15, 2021 at 3:48 am #54032

Some sport scientists say that your AeT is at the point when lactate leaves the baseline. They define it as an increase of at least 0.4mmol between steps.

So in your case I would say in the morning 160 bpm and in the evening 153 bpm is your AeT. I ignored the 0.4mmol spike s earlier bc lactate does not increase exponentially afterwards.

When you wanna be on the conservative side, I would suggest 153.