Zones doubt

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September 18, 2022 at 4:10 pm #70846

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Hi everybody.
I have read both books many times. Amazing. I don´t know if the problem is with me english (I´m from Argentina, speak spanish) or it´s really confusing. If I catch my Garmin watch (Fenix), the zones are divided like this:

Z1 Warm Up: 92 – 109
Z2 Easy: 110 – 128
Z3 Aerobic: 129 – 146
Z4 Threshold: 147 – 165
Z5 Maximum: 166 – max

First question: Just reading that list, I “guess” my AeT is 146 and my LT is 165. Isn´t it? I know is not the best source of information, I know I should do some tests and calculate for myself… but please just tell me… I´m right what I´m reading from my Garmin?.

Now, 2nd question: In the book I read many times that I have to make volume in Z1 and Z2. Z1 and Z2 in the book, are the Z2 and Z3 in Garmin?

And things got more confusing in TP. There I have:

Zone 1 Recovery: 0 – 126
Zone 2 Aerobic: 127 – 136
Zone 3 Tempo: 137 – 144
Zone 4 Subthr: 145 -154
Zone 5A Superthr: 155 – 158
Zone 5B Aerob: 159 – 163
Zone 5C Anaerob: 164 – 255

Last question: I never read about Tempo anywhere! Here, in TP, AeT is 136 and LT is 144?

3 questions in one post. Sorry! 🙂

Thanks!

Lolo
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Dada on September 18, 2022 at 4:22 pm #70847

??
Sorry, but maybe you should read the book once more.

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Anonymous on September 18, 2022 at 4:33 pm #70848

Thanks.
But I don´t understund why.
In the book, they don´t mention “tempo” in only one part. Attached a screenshot.
And zones are different from Garmin, the book and TP.
I wrote that I know I have to make other test to have my AeT and LT. I know I don´t have to “just trust Garmin”.
But my questions, I think, deserve, another type of answer.

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Eddie on September 18, 2022 at 5:24 pm #70852

> First question: Just reading that list, I “guess” my AeT is 146 and my LT is 165. Isn´t it?

Maybe? But probably not. HR zones are highly individual, i.e. specific to your metabolic response. Best to test and verify yourself.

> Now, 2nd question: In the book I read many times that I have to make volume in Z1 and Z2. Z1 and Z2 in the book, are the Z2 and Z3 in Garmin?
> Last question: I never read about Tempo anywhere! Here, in TP, AeT is 136 and LT is 144?

There are many different ways to define HR zones. Confusing, right? I wouldn’t get stuck on any one convention. If the books aren’t clear, this article may help – https://uphillathlete.com/aerobic-training/aerobic-anaerobic-threshold-self-assessment/

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Anonymous on September 18, 2022 at 5:30 pm #70854

Thanks a lot Eddie!

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Tobias on September 18, 2022 at 5:39 pm #70856

Unfortunately, my long answer didn’t show up when posting … here is a shorter version…
As eddie mentioned, the selftest I took the MAF as a starting point for the drift test.

After I had a good number for AeT I used the calculator (https://uphillathlete.com/aerobic-training/uphill-athlete-training-zones-heart-rate-calculator/) to get the zones and mapped the recovery zone as Garmin Z1 to work with Garmin 5 zones.

For TP I just created the zones according to the calculator as well and put in the numbers from the calculator and stripped away the unnecessary zones. So, things I took from Garmin: MaxHF and (Anaerobic Threshold)

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Anonymous on September 18, 2022 at 6:19 pm #70858

Thanks Tobias.
Useful information. So you are doing like me (i guess). In your Garmin Z1 is recovery, so if you have to train in Z1 or Z2 according to the book, following your Garmin you have to be in Z2 or Z3.
If you do a Lab Test, you have to put that AeT lab result at the top of the Z3 in your watch.
Thanks!

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