Yes sam thats what I was getting at, an observation tool not necessarily a hard rule.
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Thanks for your reply but I’m still confused.
From looking at the variation of what zone 1 and 2 is of a low aerobic capacity athlete versus a well trained one it could top out anywhere from 120 -150 bpm.
The idea of using nutritional needs is more as red or green light that I’m on the right track of gauging my current upper end of zone 2 without constant testing.
I’ve just found that when I’m in the middle of a good block of training my desire to drink and eat on long runs dimishes fairly consistently as a side effect.
I take this a a sign that my aerobic capacity is increasing.
Scott said something in one of the ask me anything videos, along the lines of ‘aerobic capacity can on be pushed up from the bottom, not dragged up from the top”
I’m just looking for the indicators that I’m pushing not dragging?
This leads me to another question , do you need to be working near your upper end of a zone for it to be effective?
I was wondering if this is one reason why physical jobs are not always the best for training as you probably just float around in the middle or bottom of zones?
Thanks again for your reply and it does explain some things, but first off to answer James h ,Ive been an arborist for 8 years, before that I did rope access.I climb trees and also spend a fair bit of time caring them from the back yard to the front in order to chip them or cut into fire wood.
I wear a pair of la sportiva karakorams and chainsaw pants to work.
Scott,I think your starting to see where I’m coming from and I hope you find this conversation interesting as I think this applies to anyone who has a physical job.
I wouldn’t say that being an arborist is a go to way of getting fit for alpine climbing but I would think that in terms of base training if you’ve spent say 6 hours out of a 8 hour work day in zone 1 then you go out training your in front of the guy who just spent his day in a chair in the office in terms of volume and base?
That is unless your training to climb just a hard sport route or mixed route then its likely you’d feel to tired to train properly.
I’d be interested to know what you’d say to a guide that spent his days walking with a pack on, but slow, because his clients are slow and he has to wait all the time so at the end of the day he hasn’t done that much but still needs to do something otherwise he isn’t training?
Thanks for your reply, but I wasn’t really talking about time constraints of work. I was trying to understand the training effect of work and how to incorporate that into my training outside of work.
From your email its obvious that you don’t think there is a training effect from work dispite that I have worn a heart rate monitor to work and found that I’m in zone 1 during most of my day.
From reading training for the new alpinism I am lead to believe that is the base of all endurance training.
I have more concerns about being over trained